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A new user’s review of FindMyPast

FindMyPast-free-weekendI was tempted last week by the offer of a weekend of free on-line access to “billions of historical records” at FindMyPast.co.uk. And after a great talk at my local Family History Society meeting, by Myko Clelland from FindMyPast, I decided to sign up, give it a go, and see what new things I could find. So I registered, and uploaded a GEDCOM file, with nearly 4,500 people in it. Then I had an initial explore of the site, and waited for the free access weekend to start.FindMyPast-logo

The FindMyPast website was not as good as I had hoped! I’ll explain how I got on as a new user, and in particular the things that frustrated me about the site.

The first thing I found disappointing with the site was that the “Hints” system which FindMyPast advertises as a great way to find new, relevant records to help build up your family tree, only works (currently) when you edit entries, or manually enter new ones. It doesn’t provide hints for the people that you’ve added from a GEDCOM file! FindMyPast should make it clearer before you start that when uploading a GEDCOM file you won’t get “hints” for the individuals in that file.

FindMyPast-hints-imageMy next frustration was that when I did start getting “Hints” (after adding details from paper notes that were missing from the GEDCOM file) – although at first sight many hinted records looked to be relevant, digging deeper revealed that they really weren’t relevant to my tree. A couple of times I added facts to my tree using the hints provided by FindMyPast, but then deleted them again after looking much more closely and checking back on my paper notes of details I’ve previously found! (this largely related to parish registers from the 1700’s).

It appears to me that FindMyPast‘s threshold for matching the information to provide its “Hints” may be set too low! Many of its hints can be very quickly screened out. But the difficulty comes with the ones that you have to dig into much more deeply to detect the inconsistencies. It is so easy to see something that seems to match, and add it to your tree. This could so easily lead to many false paths in numerous family trees.

All known surnames in Matt's ancestry upto his 6x Gt Grandparents

AFamilyHistoryBlog is (in part) my attempt to counter some of these “false” trees that appear on-line, where people have assumed connections to exist between separate records, but without any clear evidence for the connection. I hope that by posting the real evidence that I have from original family documents and other reliable sources, I can help to challenge and correct some of those “false” trees which can so easily develop. I also hope that if and when I follow a false path, my blog will allow others to contact me with any evidence they have, to put me back on the right path.

I had hoped to find many more images of original documents to be available to view on the FindMyPast website. But while it does have images of things like census records (which is useful), it doesn’t seem to have images of the parish registers which I had hoped for! Only the transcriptions of them!

Very often seeing images of the original parish registers (which I have done in the past on microfilm) provides additional clues/evidence that is too often missing from the transcriptions; for instance names of witnesses (who often may have been relatives), or names of places (houses/farms) where the people lived, which can confirm a continuity between different records. Without establishing such continuity between records you often can’t be certain if the name appearing several times in a parish register relates to one person, or to several different people with the same name. It was very common in the past, when extended families often lived geographically close together, to find cousins or second cousins, or uncles/aunts & nephews/nieces, who shared the same names, living in the same parish. So in the records (and more-so in their partial transcriptions) it can be very difficult to tell these individuals apart!

After these initial frustrations with the FindMyPast system, where I was largely trying to find more about earlier ancestors through parish registers, etc – largely the Walkers of Kirkliston (whom I’m currently posting documents about), I decided to change track. I began to have a look at the lines of my ancestry that I can trace least far back. From my 3x Gt-grandparents back, some gaps begin to appear. So I began looking to see if FindMyPast could help fill any of these gaps.

That generation of my tree typically features individuals born in the late 1700’s and particularly the early 1800’s – people who often had their families at the time of the early censuses. So it proved easy to find out some more about some of these ancestors from the UK censuses. In one case I have been able to obtain the maiden name of a 3x Gt-grandmother, where before I only had her married surname.

census-picElsewhere I was able to work out sideways, adding children and other details in the next generation. But this also produced one more frustration with the FindMyPast system. FindMyPast would try to use the census data about a household to identify everyone in the family and use that to update or add individuals in your family tree. But too often it risked duplicating individuals because slight differences in name spelling meant that it didn’t link the person in the census to the person in your tree! And you couldn’t easily compare the full household list in the census with the whole family group in your tree, to check who was there and who was missing.

In one case I added a “son-in-law” from the census to my tree. I already had the son-in-law in my tree, but FindMyPast didn’t connect the two together, or connect the son-in-law from the census to his wife in my tree (who was also in that census entry), but only to his parents-in-law! So “Henry” then appeared twice in my tree – a duplicate! I tried to find out how I could merge the two entries into one! But I couldn’t!

The best help I could find was on a blog by Phil Moir, who is “technical lead for the Family Tree team” at FindMyPast. That helped a little, but wasn’t exactly what I wanted! In the end I had to resort to copying the new details provided by the census, from the “new” Henry, and pasting them into the profile of the “old” Henry, then delete the “new” Henry from my tree. Not very satisfactory! It should be much easier to merge two “profiles” into one.

FindMyPast-screen-print2Another example of the problem with FindMyPast‘s handling of census records is where a child in a family had died. Then a new child was given the same name, which was common when child mortality was high – in this example “William”. The 1891 census records the younger William (b.1886). But the FindMyPast system picks up on the older “William” in the family tree (b.1867), who had died (1871) before the 1891 census, and attempts to persuade you to change his date of birth to that of the younger James, who is in the census and on your tree. If you were to follow through on FindMyPast‘s advice and update “William’s” details based on the census record, then you would have two “William”s with the same approximate date of birth in the family group. This would then look like a duplicate of one individual (similar to what I described above), when in fact they were two different individuals, with a wide gap between dates of birth.

You really need to be able to compare the census records, and what FindMyPast is hinting you to change in your tree, side-by-side with the WHOLE family group that you currently have in your tree. You need to be better able to see the context of the wider family into which you’re being prompted to add new details of an individual. As far as I can see at the moment the best that you can do is to switch between the “merge” page and the “family view”, in separate browser tabs. This isn’t satisfactory. You should be able to view them side-by-side, in the same tab, in order to fully check how the details in the hinted record compare to the family group that you already have in your tree.

So, to summerise my experience; while FindMyPast could be very useful as a research tool, the frustrations that I’ve had as a new user trying it out for the first time, mean that I can only give it 2 stars! ★★☆☆☆

The free Family Tree Builder app is great and I’ll probably continue to play with it, adding material that I’ve got elsewhere. It looks great. I just wish it was a bit easier to navigate between different branches of my tree. A tab at the top of the “family view” that would let you get quickly to an index of all the individuals in your tree would be great for that.

The available records that you can search is also good. But I think that the systems of “Hinting” records, and of merging record details into your own family tree needs improvement (I realise that this is sure to be a very technically challenging thing to get right!).

So I think that I am unlikely to take out any kind of subscription to FindMyPast until I can see them ironing out many of the frustrations that I’ve mentioned above. Once they do, it’ll be a really great tool.

 

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SWAIN family notes (part 2)

Here are some further details that David Swain has sent to me about the SWAIN family, focusing on the generation of his father (my Great Grandfather) Ernest Garfield Swain; the children of James Christopher SWAIN and Ellen HART;

(I hope at some stage to be able to add some more images/photos to this post. You can see the previous post about the SWAIN family HERE )

James Christopher SWAIN; b. 17/9/1846 in Penkridge, Acton Trussell, Staffordshire. – d. 24/1/1900 (from tuberculosis), burried in Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester.

m. 6/3/1870 in Whittington, Pershore.

Ellen HART; 25/8/1846 in Silkmore- Castle Church, Staffordshire. – d. 10/3/1938 at 129 Letchworth Road, Western Park, Leicester. burried in Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester.

Children;

  • Allen ……… b. 1871 – 1943
  • Jessie Ann …… b. 1873 – 1960
  • Charles James … b. 1874 – 1945
  • Percy ……… b. 1876 – 1941
  • Rose Ellen … b. 1878 – 1921
  • Arthur Harry … b. 1880 – 1952
  • Ernest Garfield … b. 1881 – 1968
  • Georgina Isabella … b. 1883 – 1966
  • Nellie Ada ……… b. 1885 – 1952
Notes about the children, written by David Swain;

Allen Swain; 1871 – 1943

Allen was born on 2nd January 1871 at Red Hill Cross Worcester. The first child of James Christopher and Ellen. I believe that he joined his fathers Trade of boot and shoe manufacture. I know very little of him and my father never spoke of him, so we didn’t even know that he existed. He was apparently engaged to a Minnie Byham, who was friend of his sister Jessie, but nothing came of it.

1901 Census;
Show him as a boarder and shoe operative living with William Hall, a Black Smith, and his wife, Elizabeth, at 177 Gerrard Street, Derby.

Allen Swain of 62a Broad Green, Wellingborough, died on 9th February 1943, age 72, in the Park Hospital of natural causes and cerebral heamorage.

Jessie Ann Swain; 1873 – 1960

Jessie Ann was born on 9th February 1873, at 39 Browining Street Stafford. Like her mother she was quite petite.

1900 Census;
Living at 6 Avon Street Leicester. She is 28 and a boot and shoe embroiderer.

1911 Census;
Living at 315 East Park Road, Leicester. She is 38 and shown as Domestic, so obviously helping out her mother at home! I remember her as always cheerful. Our family had great affection for her and she used to come and stay with us in Oxford.

She and her sister, Nellie, lived together in later life. When Nellie died, she went to live with her younger sister Isabella (Mrs brooks), whose husband was a chemist at 15 Eastfield Road, Western Park, Leicester. But she was never happy there. Dad tried to get her to come and live with us in Oxford, but as she had lived the greater part of her life in Leicester was a little wary.

She died on the 11th of September 1960 and as far as I know is also buried in the Welford Road Cemetery.

Charles James Swain; 1874 – 1945

Like His older brother Allan I have not been able to find out too much.

Charles was born at 44 Filbert Street in 1874 and was probably classed as a scholar until the census of 1891, living with his family at 160 Auburn Villas in Leicester, where he is shown as Clerk in a factory, I imaging a boot factory.

In 1899 he marries Amy Catherine Greatorex and in the census of 1901 they are living at 44 Harrow Road, Leicester, with a daughter; Phyllis Mary, age under one month.

1911 Census;
Charles – age 36, Amy – age 36, Phyllis – 10, and Kenneth Charles – 3, are living at 38 Paton Street, Leicester, and his occupation is shown as Professor of Music.  Charles died in 1945 in Northampton.

I know that Phyllis married a Mr Oram and they had a daughter, Joan. After he died she married again?

There are no more census records available after 1911 so without local research carried out further family details are difficult, expensive and very time consuming to follow through.

Percy Swain; 1876 – 1941

The census of 1891 shows him age 14, as a Scholar, living with the family at 160 Auburn Villas Leicester.

1901 Census;
Age 24 shows that he is living at 83 Harrison Road Leicester a Foreman clicker, shoes.

He married Emily Francis ? Probably in 1896/97. without local research I have no marriage certificate which would probably have given Emily’s surname.

1911 Census;
Living at 42 Erskine Street Leicester, Percy, now 34, a Pattern designer and cutter to the boot and shoe trade, with Emily Francis – wife, 34; Harry – Son, 13, Scholar; Annie – daughter, 12, Scholar; Frances Emily, 10, scholar; Percy James – 5; and James Christopher, 10 months.

The whole family emigrates to Perth in Australia but I have not been able to find out when, my Father kept in correspondence with his niece Annie, Mrs Downie ,also known a Cissie, in the 1960’s and according to letters received from her thanking him for all the Swain family history, a subject which he never spoke about to me or I believe my sister, what a shame!!

I wrote to two of my cousins there but never received replies so all this information is lost to my researches.

(Percy’s death on 3rd March 1941 was noted in “The West Australian” newspaper, which can now be seen archived on-line HERE. Look for “SWAIN” close to the bottom of the page, in both the first, and third column.)

Rose Ellen Swain; 1878 – 1921

Roes Ellen was born on 3rd August 1878, at 311 Belgrave Road, Leicester.

1901 Census;
Shows her, aged 23, as a Hosier and outfitter, and living with the family at 6 Avon Street, Leicester.

1911 Census;
Shows her, aged 33, a Hosier and outfitter, living with the family at 315 East Park Road, Leicester.

Rose Ellen died on 28th November 1921, age 43, at 44 Fosse Road Central (probably a hospice), from cancer of the bladder, and was buried in Welford Road cemetery.

Her last will and testament “gave and bequeathed all my possessions to my dear sister Jessie and sole executor of my will”, dated 23/11/1921. The value of her estate was £190 – 4s – 7d.

Arthur Harry Swain; 1880 – 1952

Harry is going to be a difficult one to fit in here as he had such a full life and did so much in the community. He and dad were great friends, so I got to know him better than all the other uncles/aunts.

Arthur Harry was born on 16th January 1880, at 44 Filbert Street Leicester.

1891 Census;
The family are living at 160 Auburn Villas, Narborough, and Harry is shown aged 11, as a scholar. In 1895 at the age of 15  He finishes at the Holy Trinity School and joins John Storey, Solicitor and Leicester Town clerk.

1901 Census;
Living with the family at 6 Avon Street Leicester. Harry, aged 21, is still working as a Solicitors Clerk, but owing to his Fathers death last year is not able to carry on his training for the legal profession.

1911 Census;
Living with the family at 315 East Park Road, Leicester.

Harry is now 31 but at the age of 26 he started his own company; A H Swain Insurance Brokers. Where and what he did from 1901 to 1906 I do not know.

In 1911 he is elected as Councillor for St Martins Ward, which he held for 17 years.

He and Mary Aitken Tarbet (daughter of Richard and Jane Blair Tarbet, of Largs, Ayreshire), were married on the 26th July 1911, in Largs, where she and her family lived. Then she and Harry lived at “Darvell”, 7 Fosse Road, Western Park, Leicester. Harry was 31 and Mary was 41.

During WW1, Mary served as a VAD nurse and this is probably when my mother, Doris Twite (also a VAD) met. This no doubt led to Doris coming to know the Swains.

It is perhaps ironic that Mary Died on the day of local elections in 1933, age 66. Her funeral was held at St Mary Magdalene, Knighton. Her will shows that she had a private income and left effects to the sum of £2,639 – 15s – 8d. Quite a sum for the 1930s. She had been ill and bed ridden for some time I can just remember seeing a lady in bed with a supported raised leg, I was only 4 then, she died of cancer of the femur.

At this time Harry wrote a book dealing with Export credit insurance. This book attracted the attention of the British and French Governments. He gave evidence before a joint committee and his book was looked upon as a standard work, the French Ambassador presented  Harry with the Palm D’Academy for his services.

In November 1936 Harry was elected to be Mayor of Leicester. As his wife, Mary, had died, his sister, Nellie, supported him as Lady Mayoress.

Harry married Edith Masie Darvell in London. She was the daughter of Colonel and Mrs Darvell of Windsor, what a coincidence in the name Darvell. They lived at 44 The Ridgeway, Rothley, Leicester.

Harry died on 12th February 1952, and after the funeral service in Leicester Cathedral was buried in Rothley cemetery; the family vault in the Abbey cemetery being full.

Ernest Garfield Swain; 1881 – 1968

Ernest was born on the 20th August 1881, at 14 Walnut Street, Leicester.

1891 Census;
160 Auburn Villas, Leicester; aged 9, scholar.

1901 Census;
6 Avon Street, Leicester; age 19, a shoe machine operator.

1911 Census;
315 East park Road, Leicester; aged 29; Traveller in Wholesale Confectionary.

He was employed by the largest sweet manufacturer in the country, Clarnico & Company, as their representative in Yorkshire, and they provided him with a Scrips Booth American car.

He told me that he always had a spare rear axel on board as they had a habit of wearing out and petrol was only obtainable from a few Blacksmiths.

Sometime in 1915 he enlisted in the Leicester Regiment Territorial Force, and on the 21st November that year was appointed an officer; Second Lieutenant Swain.Cover - click to enlarge

inside - click to enlargeThe regiment was deployed to France and at some stage he suffered shrapnel injuries to his left leg and eye, and was invalided out of the regiment. Like many, he never talked about his war experiences.

The Swains knew the Twites as the families had business in Leicester and he and my mother (Doris Twite) wished to get married but she was taking care of her parents, Charles and Annie, in Droitwich, where they had gone for the spa waters, to help Charles relieve his painful arthritis, and thus she and Garfield, as he was always known, were unable to marry until Annie’s death in 1926.

They were married on 5th May 1927, at the Parish Church of Aylestone, Leicester, and spent their honeymoon touring by car; Gloucestershire, Somerset and Devon in a 12hp Calthorpe.

Dad had taken a post as company secretary to G R Cooper, Ironmongers, in Oxford, in 1925. So they purchased No11 Park Cresent, Oxford, for I believe the sum of £1600.00 pounds.

Our Father developed the company into the largest Builders Merchants in the South of England, this included Ironmongery metal workshops and salerooms. He set up an offshoot known as Multifactors; a wholsale company dealing in tobacco and sweets, covering many counties. He obviously had good contacts from his days with Clarnico & Co.

For some reason or other he never wished to become a Director, mores the pity for he would have been in a better position financially which would have made his retirement years easier. He retired in 1957 age 76.

Father died  on the 26th March 1968, age 86, myocardial failure- senile decay.

Georgina Isabella Swain; 1883 – 1966

Georgina was born on the 1st of June 1883 at 3 Frederick Street Leicester.

I know very little about her.

1911 Census;
shows her at age 28, as a Clerk. She married William Garratt Brooks, who had a Chemists shop in Leicester, and they had a son, William Stanley.

She died on the 1st January 1966 age 82 in the George Eliot Hospital, Nuneaton. This would have been nearest to Hinckley, where they lived at 28 Salem Road, Burbage.

More research would be needed.

Nellie Ada Swain; 1885 – 1952

Nellie Ada was born on the 15th of March 1885 at 3 Frederick Street Leicester.

1911 Census;
Shows her age 26, as Elementary School Teacher. She remained a teacher all her working life. She became Head Teacher of the Belgrave National C of E infants School, from 1918 to 1941. Sadly head mistresses were not allowed to marry.

In 1936 she was Lady Mayoress to her Brother Arthur Harry when he was elected Mayor of Leicester.

All this time she lived with the family at “Darvel”, 129 Letchworth Road, Western Park, Leicester.

Nellie Died on 7th September 1952, age 67, and is buried in the Welford Road cemetery.

Mr J C Martin the headmaster of her School in 1990, sent me lots of details of her time there and pictures of the school but I have as yet to scan them to the computer.

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For other details about the SWAIN family on this site, please see the SWAIN category or the Swain tag.

Previous posts about the SWAIN family include;

 

SWAIN family notes

I have mentioned previously about reading some notes written by my great-uncle, David Swain, about his research into the SWAIN family. David has now e-mailed some of his text to me, so that I can post it up on this website. I think that there is more to follow, which will lead to several more posts about this family.

Regarding his sources, David has told me that; tracing the Swains and the Twites, who both hail from Somerset, I understand that many Parish records were sent for safe keeping to Bristol where unfortunately most were destroyed in the bombing of Bristol in WW2, this has made research previous to the first Census almost impossible”.

Here is David’s text;

Well lets make a start on the SWAINs as I see them and us. It would appear that it all started with an infant in Bristol with no known parents. A baby boy was born on the 29th November 1802 and left at the Ebenezer (Wesleyan) Chapel in Kings Street, Bristol.

A William and Susan Swain who attended the Chapel took the baby into their care and may even have adopted him so giving him his name James Swain. He may also have been baptised but I found no records of this. William was a Cordwainer (boot and shoe maker/ repairer).

Years pass when out of the blue, he crops up in St Martins Parish Register Birmingham on a marriage certificate, James Swain marries a Mary Bromsgrove after Banns on the 1st of November 1820, William shown as father to James and in the preference of Hannah Whimaytes and Michael Broome.

In 1837 we find:

James Swain Widower marries Isabella Johnson on the 2nd October 1837, William is shown as his father and Christopher as Isabella’s. James will be 34 and Hannah 21.

So the family of James and Isabella begins:

1841 census draws a blank.

1851 census: living at 26 Back Goal Road Stafford.

  • James ………………. 48, Head, Shoe maker
  • Isabella …………….. 35, wife
  • Isabella …………….. 8, daughter
  • James Christopher … 4, son
  • Susannah ………….. 1, daughter (twin), born 1849
  • Priscilla …………….. 1, daughter (twin), dies 1849
  • Elizabeth …………… 5, daughter, dies 1858

1861 census: living at 14 New Street Stafford.

  • James ……………….. 58, head, Cordwainer
  • Isabella ………………. 45, wife, Seamstress
  • Isabella ………………. 18, daughter, Shoe Binder
  • James Christopher … 15, son, Cordwainer
  • Susan ………………… 11, daughter, Nurse Girl
  • Thomas ………………. 9, son, Scholar
  • Emma …………………. 2, daughter, dies 01.06.1863
  • Allen ………………….. 3 months, son
  • Frances ……………….. 3 months, daughter

1871 census: living at 15 New Street Stafford.

  • James ………. 68, head, Shoemaker
  • Isabella …….. 55, wife, Seamstress
  • Susan ……….. 22, Machinist
  • Thomas …….. 20, son, Shoemaker
  • Allen …………. 11, son (twin), Scholar
  • Frances ……… 11, daughter (twin), Scholar
  • Ellen ………….. 25, daughter (in law)
  • Allen ………….. 3 months, grandson.

1881 census: living at 39 Browning Street Stafford.

  • James, 78.
  • Isabella, 65.
  • Allen, 21.

Not long after this census, Isabella dies on the 24th January 1882 age 66 at Browning Street Stafford from cancer of the breast in the presence of her daughter at Satchwell Street Leamington.

James dies on the 15th of January 1883 age 80 at Browning Street Stafford from natural decay in the presence of Isabella Goodwin, his daughter.

So after 30 years following James and Isabella and family my research now focusses on the eldest son James Christopher.

It is possible to research all the children which I might do one day though with some of the daughters this can be quite difficult, they get married and therefore their surname changes and it becomes a matter of chance in finding them, this is frustrating as their lives are still there somewhere.

James Christopher SWAIN; 1846 – 1900

James was born on the 17th of September 1846 in Penkridge, Acton Trussell, Staffordshire. As a young man he was engaged by a London firm of Royal Court Patronage in Bond Street, known as shoe makers to Royalty. After a year or two he returned home to Stafford to help his father James, a boot and shoe craftsman, in making all kinds of hand sewn shoes. At this time he fell in love with Ellen Hart, the daughter of a well known Worcestershire Coachman, Charles Hart.

James and Ellen were maried on the 6th of March 1870 in the chapel of Whittington, Pershore. They moved to Leicester when he became a sleeping partner in the old established firm of Wilkinsons & Co. Whilst there he was visited by a Mr T Wood, managing director of shoe retailers Freeman Hardy & Willis with branches in all major towns. Mr Wood and his chief buyer were so pleased with the quality of the ladies high leg soft kid boots with lace and embroidery work that they placed a very large order.

James went on to design and consult with many firms on all aspects of shoe manufacture. James died on the 24th January 1900 of tuberculosis and was buried in a family vault in the Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester. In his will, dated 1894, he leaves all of his possessions to his dear wife Ellen and the probate certificate shows the sum of £155.00 gross value of his estate, confirmed by Jackson & Flood solicitors.

Ellen HART; 1846 – 1938

Ellen was born on the 25th of August 1846 in the Parish of Silkmore- Castle Church, Staffordshire. Her Father, Charles Hart, was a well known Coachman, and her mother Ann (nee Ward). Ellen Married James Christopher Swain on the 6th March 1870. At this time she was living at Green Hill Worcester.

As my memory serves she was quite a small lady and I am sure was the strength of her family as James appeared to spend much time away on business. She had nine children over a period of 14 years from Allen in 1871 to Nellie in 1885 five boys and four girls. As you will have noticed from James Christophers details they only rented property and moved quite a few times.

In 1901 census (James died in 1900), she and her family were living at 6 Avon Street Leicester and the 1911 census shows her and six of her children were living at 315 East Park Road, Leicester.

When we visited her she lived with her son Arthur Harry in his house ‘Darvel’ 129 Letchworth Road, Western Park, Leicester. How long she had lived there I do not know.

Ellen died on the 10th march 1938 age 91 at this address and was buried in the family vault in the Welford Road cemetery on the 14th march.

So back to censuses:

1871 census: 35 Golding Road Bermondsey Southwark.

  • Alfred SLADEN …………………… 25, head, Clicker
  • James Christopher SWAIN …. 24, Lodger, Clicker

A clicker was the one who cut out the leather in shoemaking.

1881 census: 44 Filbert Street St Mary,s Leicester

  • James Christopher SWIAN …. 34 Head, Boot Manufacturer Manager
  • Ellen …………………………… 34 Wife
  • Allen …………………………… 10 Son
  • Jessie ………………………….. 8, Daughter
  • Charles ………………………… 6, Son
  • Percy …………………………… 4, Son
  • Rose ……………………………. 2, Daughter
  • Arthur …………………………. 1, Son

1891 census: 160 Albion Villas Narborough Leicester.

  • James Christopher SWAIN …. 44, Boot Factory Manager
  • Ellen ……………………………. 44, Wife
  • Jessie ………………………….. 18, daughter
  • Charles ………………………… 16, Son, Clerk in Factory
  • Percy ……………………………. 14, Son, Scholar
  • Rose …………………………….. 12 Daughter, Scholar
  • Arthur …………………………… 11 Son, Scholar
  • Ernest ……………………………. 9 Son, Scholar
  • Georgina ……………………….. 7 Daughter, Scholar
  • Nellie …………………………….. 6 Daughter.

We now know that there were nine children.